tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-273124520330547347.post6280790887736342700..comments2023-10-04T16:22:32.920+01:00Comments on Thanet Strife: WHERE WERE KEN GREGORY'S TROOPS?Bertie Biggleshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14197385124719226254noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-273124520330547347.post-34946106890944087282008-06-10T20:12:00.000+01:002008-06-10T20:12:00.000+01:00In the case of this large development, has the Pla...In the case of this large development, has the Planning Committee been given due diligence reports on the companys that will be developing or the tenants of the proposed development? One good point remains that we will face a food shortage in future generations, we have already lost valuable farmland to Westwood. Thanet is a small area and becoming overdeveloped.Rate revenue raising seems be one of the considerations for public planners and not just job creation as heralded.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-273124520330547347.post-67752547198987943342008-06-09T22:03:00.000+01:002008-06-09T22:03:00.000+01:00As a business owner, many local people do want to ...As a business owner, many local people do want to work, but job oppertunities are few. And they also feel they cannot compete for jobs due to the influx of immigrant labour. Our councils have also done very little to support tradditional jobs in our town centres employed by local business for young people etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-273124520330547347.post-74828900090363683342008-06-09T16:23:00.000+01:002008-06-09T16:23:00.000+01:00If I have cause to be going down some of the roads...If I have cause to be going down some of the roads near me where there used to be folk hanging around all day with nothing to do, I never see anyone. I leaflet for various organisations and apart from dogs barking some of these areas are empty because people are out at work. Canvassing during local leections has to be done in the evenings as you don't catch folk in during the day.<BR/><BR/>I think the ones who aren't working but hanging round Ramsgate town centre are the ones who don't want to work, have no skills and don't care about their future.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-273124520330547347.post-17848549617892557552008-06-09T15:55:00.000+01:002008-06-09T15:55:00.000+01:00There are plenty of jobs in Thanet. I work locally...There are plenty of jobs in Thanet. I work locally. So does my husband. so do most people I know. What Thanet is short of is people who are willing to do an honest days work for an honest days pay.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-273124520330547347.post-12774421599402859202008-06-09T00:31:00.000+01:002008-06-09T00:31:00.000+01:00Thank you, Ken. That is exactly what my sources ha...Thank you, Ken. That is exactly what my sources have been telling me and I hope the 'doubting Thomas' will now shut up as the Chair of Planning is the one person who should know!!Bertie Biggleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14197385124719226254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-273124520330547347.post-2761915008394486372008-06-08T23:04:00.000+01:002008-06-08T23:04:00.000+01:00Ps, Bert mccastree was at the site vist, I spent a...Ps, <BR/><BR/>Bert mccastree was at the site vist, I spent a while chatting to himKen Gregoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04129320142361162837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-273124520330547347.post-19680170407798669672008-06-08T23:03:00.000+01:002008-06-08T23:03:00.000+01:00Bertie,I do not shout at people, especially Clive,...Bertie,<BR/><BR/>I do not shout at people, especially Clive, as he tends to shout back. More importantly I do not need to shout at the planning committee, as they understand I do not make the rules/ I just enforce them. This procedure is under review, and will be fine tuned in the fulness of time.<BR/><BR/>MORE importantly, I wishe to see fairness at planning, but that does apply to applicants as well as objectorsKen Gregoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04129320142361162837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-273124520330547347.post-31472014609275273702008-06-08T21:13:00.000+01:002008-06-08T21:13:00.000+01:00Ken, your comment leaves me confused. I have poure...Ken, your comment leaves me confused. I have poured over F/TH/08/0400 from the comfort of my own home and unless it has been withdrawn, surely it is still extant? If this was a preliminary site visit, then fine. Having heard tales of how it went on a damp Friday morning, I must say that I hope you will be visiting again and that all your members get a clearer picture next time. <BR/><BR/>What does amaze me though is that input from interested members of the public at Site Meetings has been banned recently by TDC and one source tells me that Cllr Clive Hart was shouted at, by you, for talking with a member of the public when the 'Site Meeting' was moving from location to location. I would have thought in a democracy that our Councillors have enough confidence to listen to input from whatever source and can be trusted to arrive at their own view-point. Stiffling discussion is not what I expected from a Conservative Council when I voted for my Tory ward councillors.Bertie Biggleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14197385124719226254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-273124520330547347.post-3803407011970882432008-06-08T20:53:00.000+01:002008-06-08T20:53:00.000+01:0013.55, you seem to miss the point here. There is ...13.55, you seem to miss the point here. There is over-development on a massive scale going on around Thanet and quite a bit of it stalling due to the credit crunch leaving half-built projects and boarded up demolished sites. Thanet Earth is due to create 500 jobs and there is more than enough designated employment sites around Thanet to stick re-distribution warehouses for Chinese importers and create a few low skilled local jobs. All of this can be done instead of building Thanet's largest Industrial Park on agricultural land and on top of our drinking water source. If you look at the experience of Gruppo Antolin and comments from Training Agencies you will find that the skills base does not exist in Thanet. We are surely foolish to build on agricultural land and on top of a water supply to create jobs of dubious quality so that Chinese imports can be redistributed by hundreds of HGVs from warehouses sitting on precious agricultural land and on top of Source Protection Zone 1. You completely fail to understand what Amy Murray and her team are about here, I am afraid. They are far removed from privileged NIMBYs!Bertie Biggleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14197385124719226254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-273124520330547347.post-6530663017384066452008-06-08T20:44:00.000+01:002008-06-08T20:44:00.000+01:00Chair of Planning did say there would be another s...Chair of Planning did say there would be another site meeting once the full report had been received. Hopefully for that one more of the committee will make the trip as seven from fifteen is not even half.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-273124520330547347.post-22642157434359819652008-06-08T20:34:00.000+01:002008-06-08T20:34:00.000+01:00Without a site visit the decision makers should no...Without a site visit the decision makers should not be allowed to make a decision, as they can only rely on colleque's views and official papers sent to them. This should not be allowed in major local planning applications. One senses that things are being rubber stamped.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-273124520330547347.post-7355076435229469222008-06-08T15:22:00.000+01:002008-06-08T15:22:00.000+01:00That makes no difference he should not have been l...That makes no difference he should not have been left out. And old people are wise, and have answers to problems.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-273124520330547347.post-29152281605355457382008-06-08T06:58:00.000+01:002008-06-08T06:58:00.000+01:00Good grief, what are you going on about. How many ...Good grief, what are you going on about. How many more times do we have to say, Cllr. McCastree was included at the site visit? He was chatting afterwards to the Chair of Minster Parish Council when the visit was over and people were dispersing. Bertie saw no need to put up photographs of the attendees as those of us there knew who came. Cllr. Gregory said some couldn't make it due to work commitments but from Bertie's pix some of the missing look old enough to be retired.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-273124520330547347.post-5682589873879842132008-06-07T23:42:00.000+01:002008-06-07T23:42:00.000+01:00i still think its unfair that cllr mccastree was n...i still think its unfair that cllr mccastree was not included.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-273124520330547347.post-19576772344405830822008-06-07T15:01:00.000+01:002008-06-07T15:01:00.000+01:00Yours truly may have been a bit muddled by the pre...Yours truly may have been a bit muddled by the precise distinctions between a pre-site visit and a full visit but Yours Truly, Cllr. Gregory, did raise the point that your party voted to prevent the public speaking at these visits at the recent Full Council AGM. Giving residents and other objectors a chance to raise concerns whilst actually on-site surely is common sense and evidence of democracy in operation.<BR/><BR/>Presumably those supporting the proposals are also stopped from speaking. Were any representatives from CGP present at yesterday's on site visit?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-273124520330547347.post-53713269294250265772008-06-07T14:52:00.000+01:002008-06-07T14:52:00.000+01:00I do know that I would like to see the airport exp...I do know that I would like to see the airport expand, more jobs, and all those nimby's who live next door to an established airport move elsewhere and moan there!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-273124520330547347.post-64656784489026737202008-06-07T14:45:00.000+01:002008-06-07T14:45:00.000+01:00Yes, Thanet needs jobs of all types but it also ne...Yes, Thanet needs jobs of all types but it also needs a reliable water supply, 13.55, not one that is at risk from pollution. Even Ken Wills who is behind the scheme has admitted there might be a risk to the water supply because, it seems, he's opting for the cheapest option. The run-off from this concreted area would be sufficient to cause flooding over a wide area due to the refusal, at this stage, to instal an adequate mains drainage system. Residents in the rural area who already suffer noise and light pollution from the Cummins factory will have their lives made even more miserable by HGV movements that will cause gridlock on our roads, 24/7 operation with the inevitable disturbance of sleep, possible increased traffic at the airport and so on. Perhaps 13.55 you'd like to swap homes with one of the residents.<BR/><BR/>While the world faces a food shortage but there's no shortage of cheap consumer goods, it would be crazy to allow good farmland to be taken up by distribution centres for imported goods from mainland China. The so-called jobs 'bonanza' will be some final tweaking of the goods to fit them for the UK and EU market and......<BR/><BR/>Incidentally, Ken Gregory is Chair of Planning and the decision is not his alone but is that of the remaining 14 members of the committee.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-273124520330547347.post-10274675703434913522008-06-07T13:55:00.000+01:002008-06-07T13:55:00.000+01:00This cr*p about the water supply has just been whi...This cr*p about the water supply has just been whipped up by people who will be living very close to the proposed development. Their real agenda is protecting their precious views and property values. Do not let them win this argument Cllr Gregory - Thanet needs jobs!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-273124520330547347.post-71106351296235058982008-06-07T12:02:00.000+01:002008-06-07T12:02:00.000+01:00PS,Anon 1148 is correct.PS,<BR/><BR/>Anon 1148 is correct.Ken Gregoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04129320142361162837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-273124520330547347.post-19108508654727349532008-06-07T12:00:00.000+01:002008-06-07T12:00:00.000+01:00Bertie,Your correspondant is a little muddled. Wha...Bertie,<BR/><BR/>Your correspondant is a little muddled. What I actually was telling members was that the full application has not yet been received by members. The full report, along with details of objections, comments from the relevant consultees, and officers will be circulated to committee members prior to the matter coming before them. The purpose of the visit was to see the site prior to any discussion.<BR/><BR/>If we had started a discussion on the full application we would have been doing so without view of the full reports. Any ombudsman or inspector would have taken, I would suggest, a dim view of that.<BR/><BR/>It is entirely possible that, at a future date, a further site visit may take place, but it is not in my remit to prejudge the views of the committee.<BR/><BR/>With regard to the non attendance of some members of the committee, It is only those fortunate enough to work in the local government or national government sector who can claim time off for council duties. In the private sector there is no such right.Ken Gregoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04129320142361162837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-273124520330547347.post-24352660515210597602008-06-07T11:48:00.000+01:002008-06-07T11:48:00.000+01:00I was at the visit, and it was cllr Bruce who stat...I was at the visit, and it was cllr Bruce who stated that water was not pumped out of the ground at sparrow castle. He said it is mixed there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-273124520330547347.post-33060442111554828152008-06-07T08:02:00.000+01:002008-06-07T08:02:00.000+01:00To repeat what I said last evening 19.33,19.38, th...To repeat what I said last evening 19.33,19.38, the pictues are those who did not attend and Cllr. Dean McCastree did attend along with 6 other councillors WHOSE PICTURES ARE NOT INCLUDED. THE PICTURES ARE THOSE WHO DID NOT ATTEND. CAN I REPEAT, THE PICTURES ARE THOSE WHO DID NOT,REPEAT,NOT ATTEND.<BR/><BR/>Read it again. <BR/><BR/>Yours truly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-273124520330547347.post-7849678487695407882008-06-07T00:02:00.000+01:002008-06-07T00:02:00.000+01:00Have just come back from my favourite watering hol...Have just come back from my favourite watering hole, 19.33,19.38,21.24 and am slightly concerned that you cannot read! My understanding is that Cllr McCastree was there this morning according to the e-mail sent me. Could i suggest that you read this post again and grasp the simple fact that pictures of Councillors, other than Mick Tomlinson, are of those who were not at Manston this morning! I resent the implication you are making 21.24 and it does you no credit.Bertie Biggleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14197385124719226254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-273124520330547347.post-13830757893248388542008-06-06T21:24:00.000+01:002008-06-06T21:24:00.000+01:00I just think it is strange that the picture of Tha...I just think it is strange that the picture of Thanet's black councillor has been left out. But I guess you have a FAIR enough reason.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-273124520330547347.post-72080949577659972812008-06-06T21:07:00.000+01:002008-06-06T21:07:00.000+01:00The pictures shown are those who did not turn out ...The pictures shown are those who did not turn out in the rain, not those who did.If you note there is a picture of Cllr. Linda Aldred whereas the report of those who came contains the names of male councillors.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com